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Talk about a mess. OK Hamas fires rockets into Israel from Gaza and won’t stop. Israel says stop or we’ll kick your ass. They continue. So Israel launches an air strike on Hamas targets in Gaza. So what does Hamas do? They keep firing rockets at civilians and keep playing the victim. That is bullshit.
I will agree that both Israel and the United States tend to over react. Take Pearl Harbor for example. Japan hits a military target and the US responds by nuking two cities of civilians. That was wacked. Especially when you realize that the oil embargo the US placed Japan under forced them to do something to stop the oil embargo. Then there’s the whole drama about how the US knew about the attack before it happened, left the old ships in the harbour while the new ships were out to sea during the attack. But we won’t get into that now. Much.
My point is that I will admit Israel and the United States tend to over react. You kill one of ours we kill a hundred of yours. That’s fair so they say. Then there’s the torture issue. I have no doubt that Israel will torture prisoners who are known terrorists to get information to save lives. I disagree with that practice. The US uses that argument to torture innocent people to get fake confessions for their false flag attacks to justify their oil wars. I really disagree with that.
I will agree that there are Jewish extremists just like there are Muslim extremists, born again Christian extremists and even Atheist extremists. The problem isn’t religion. The problem is self-determination and murder.
Let’s compare Gaza to Ireland. England conquered and oppressed Ireland and the Irish people objected. The Easter Rising was the height of the rebellion, which eventually paved the way for the creation of the free state. Before Ireland became a republic England let them form a free state as a stepping stone to becoming an independent republic.
Now let’s compare that to Gaza. Gaza is conquered by England and England gives the land to Israel so they can have a home of their own. Gaza objects. Israel pulls out and starts giving them more autonomy. So what do they do? They say we want more and start shooting rockets at Israeli citizens. If the Irish Free State started shooting rockets at England when given their new independence there is no way England would have let them form a republic.
Northern Ireland is problematic. 51% of the people there want to remain part of England. 49% do not. Compare that to Israel. The Jewish people living in Palestine want to be independent. If Gaza had their way they would be the oppressors and we would be in the same boat.
Palestinians have a right to live in Palestine. Jews have a right to live there as well. So do Armenians and Christians. Wiping one group off the face of the earth is just plain wrong. It’s that simple. And murdering innocent civilians in acts of terrorism is murder.
In Ireland the IRA would hit military targets. When they targeted civilians they lost public support. The bottom line is that Gaza needs to stop starting shit and then play the victim. It’s just plain pathetic and defies the public peace.
The thing I can’t figure out is if Israel sends in air strikes how and the hell can Hamas keep firing rockets? Gaza is pretty small. About the size of Vancouver Island only very densely populated. You’d think with all high tech equipment and spy satellites out there Israel would be able to blow up each new location Hamas fired rockets from. The problem arises when they fire rockets from civilian areas and then cry the victim about civilian casualties when Israel strikes where they were firing the rockets from. In essence they are using their own people as human shields. That is shameful. http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/in_pictures/6166998.stm
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In the past seven days we have seen over 420 killed in Gaza and 4 killed in Israel. Of these 420 one was a Hamas leader and the rest are innocent people including women and children. What the world is allowing Israel to do is a shame on all of us.
Israel is blockading medical supplies from reaching Gaza in tactics right out of the CIA's "School of the Americas" and George Bush is laughing all the way. Israel: Stop this Holocaust!
Stop the holocaust? Wow that’s not only offensive it’s absurd. The holocaust was when Hitler gasses the Jews as an act of racial and religious genocide. They were innocent. They did nothing wrong. Being good with money is not a crime. They were not launching rockets at Hitler or innocent German civilians.
Gaza was and continues to launch rockets at Israel and refuses to stop. If they stop launching rockets, Israel will stop their offensive. Did you see the pictures? Hamas is using civilians as human shields. That is shameful. When Israel started giving telephone warnings so people could evacuate a Hamas centre before they bomb it, they send a whole troop of women to the top of the building to be killed and pretend they are innocent martyrs. That is absolutely deranged. I just can’t support the be the bully play the victim from either side.
George Bush is an idiot but he has nothing to do with this. If he was involved it would be fake rocket attacks. The difference is the rocket attacks aren’t the CIA attacking their own people. They are extremists whose sole goal is to wipe Israel off the face of the earth. Those are the ones who throw candies in the air when Israeli citizens die in terrorist attacks. That is deranged.
This is where I think some Union’s extremism loses members and sends the labour movement down the toilet while the corporate criminal’s laugh. The CUPE resolution against Israel was simple anti-Semitic. CUPW came out with a similar one but theirs had a clause denouncing terrorism. It is unfortunate Unions use these resolutions all one way not both ways. They denounce terrorism but turn a blind eye to it and spew the kool aid nonsense about being victims.
I agree that Israel should not be moving into Palestinian areas but the Gaza situation is a prime example of the absurd position the terrorists put them in. Start shit, play the victim then use woman and children as humans shields and cry out for the world to help. My response to that is simple. No. You’re on your own. The same response I have to Bush who wants to invade a country like Iraq or Afghanistan for Oil. No. You’re on your own. It goes both ways.
I think you and I agree on 99% of the issues but I believe this one is a stalemate. Neither of us is going to change the others mind... Sorry for hijacking your Blog.
Croft
No worries. I think it is important to be able to speak on both sides of an issue. I forgot to add that you are without question a super hero. No two people agree on every issue. You have strong feelings about this issue that are valid as do many others. People have a right to their feelings. How they express those feelings can be appropriate or inappropriate. Road rage is one example. I’m really angry that guy was such a weasel and butt in that long line of traffic. Giving him the finger is appropriate. Shooting him in the head is not.
I’m going to make another post about some of the good and some of the bad things I saw in Israel but I’ll just make a comment on your statement about the medicine being blocked. I think both sides are capable of lying. It doesn’t make sense why Israel would let fuel and other items through but not medicine. After all war is often about propaganda and that act would not serve their cause. It’s possible they are blocking medicine. That is what war and a siege is. The only thing that the Trojans let through their siege was a horse. Nevertheless, I find the thought of them blocking medicine but letting fuel through hard to swallow.
You are always free to post here. Cheers.
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